Recently, on social media, an NLP Practitioner asked a question about a client who reported having a phobia, and with whom he used the NLP Fast Phobia Cure, which may have partly worked, but it came back a few days later?
Metaphors - Creating, Developing, & Delivering Metaphor - NLP Chat
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| Jonathan | Hi folks -- welcome to the chat -- looks like we have about 10-15 active participants this time... and that's a good number! Isn't it? |
| tranzpupy, PhilAlex, peanut, kamilian, K_O | y |
| Jonathan | Because its not how many people show, its how we work together! |
| Jonathan | Won't we? |
| tranzpupy | didn't we? |
| Jonathan | This reminds me of one of the other chats I did. |
| tranzpupy | ? |
| peanut | could we |
| Jonathan | I started up, and I began to talk, and after a few lines... I asked a question.... |
| K_O | how? |
| Jonathan | and no one answered. It was like, they were all... somewhere else... |
| tranzpupy | where? |
| Jonathan | And I don't know if it was the content of the chat, because I was talking about Milton Erickson. |
| tranzpupy | zzzz |
| K_O | Hey isn't that what hypnosis is all about? being somewhere else? |
| tranzpupy | at the same time we're hear |
| Jonathan | You see, Erickson liked to give his clients tasks to complete. Now, none of you are actually here, so I can't suggest you work in my garden... but Milton used to suggest people go work in his garden, sometimes until their unconscious would allow them to make changes that were of importance to them... and sometimes he'd talk about his tomato plant. Now, as you think about how Milton would give people seemingly irrelevant tasks, and get them to DO something other than what they were used to doing... and ... eventually, they'd start to really really get it -- whatever it was. |
| K_O | so he got free gardening work while helping his clients? that's pretty damned cool! |
| tranzpupy | and it was their it. Not his they got. |
| Jonathan | But he was often very successful. People would bind the results of them completing their gardening task to the results they wanted in their own minds. Sure! Its the best thing about Hypnosis... no one needs to really know your content. You get to keep it to yourself. Now, I think its pretty cool, they got to make changes, and he got free gardening work! |
| Klorm | Its all process, right? |
| K_O | So you mean success in the garden=success in real life? |
| tranzpupy | which is sometimes a very good idea.. (keeping it to yourself) |
| Jonathan | So what I want you to think about is how when you take trips in life, lets say on an airplane... sometimes they go up 5000 feet for short flights... sometimes 10000 feet.... sometimes 20000.... and occasionally they take you up to 35000. And the interesting thing about compressed air tubes with wings is that when you drink a beer, or a glass of wine... there's a little less oxygen up there... so it's like its too strong. It's TOO strong. I mean, its really TWO strong, isn't it? |
| tranzpupy | one. |
| Jonathan | Like, you could drink 2 glasses of wine at Sea level, but if you go up in a place, 2 glasses of wine, and you're flying!!! |
| kamilian | man, i want a drink |
| Jonathan | See I was recently coming back from California, and I had some dental work done so I was on Vicodin. |
| kamilian | ;) |
| Jonathan | Good stuff, Vicodin. Its like TWO-strong codeine. |
| K_O | sounds cheaper than drinking at sea level! |
| Jonathan | Now, I had taken my Vicodin, and the plane was cruising at 35000 feet -- I was cruising at 70,000 feet! |
| tranzpupy | kewl |
| Jonathan | I thought -- WOW -- now that's a major birds' eye view! I could see 4 times as much! Neat! But then time was moving much more quickly for me -- I got there in what seemed like a lot less time. And so I guess I saw less detail. I didn't get hung up in it. |
| K_O | Jon-was that a good thing or a bad thing? |
| MarkM | what I always wonder about metaphors is, what happens if you know a person is using one? |
| Jonathan | So what you can see, now, is that the above story is just a story. It doesn't have to mean anything. It could mean a lot, couldn't it? |
| tranzpupy | yes |
| K_O | sure?? |
| Jonathan | I mean, I didn't tell you that the flight attendant saw me smiling and I told her "I loooove flying..." ;) And that may or may not mean anything of importance to you... But as you cycle through rep systems understanding what I'm saying... see here, now... I could mean any number of things, could I not> |
| tranzpupy | well, what you see at sea level is different, right? |
| Jonathan | Because whether or not I mean a lot of little things... as you listen to the story/stories... you may shift into or through certain states as I do so. |
| K_O | Jon-yeah.. you could.. which is kinda confusing.. |
| Jonathan | So whether I mean things at the detail level or at the state level is really... well... its up to your unconscious, right? And I did change states during that flight, let me tell you! |
| tranzpupy | and my unconscious is not a see level.. |
| Bohunkas | so the metaphor is just a delivery system for processes. |
| Jonathan | I love the word "just" ;) |
| Bohunkas | :) |
| Jonathan | May I quote Bandler? |
| tranzpupy | quote away |
| Jonathan | "When people use 'Just' it means that they're right up at the edge of their internal model... face pressed up against the glass... And that's the glass wall you want to throw the brick through..." |
| tranzpupy | ouch |
| K_O | OUCH! Wouldn't hat kinda hurt? |
| Jonathan | I can quote Bandler. I mean, I guess I just did, so that must mean I can! ;) |
| tranzpupy | don't be mean about it, though |
| Jonathan | The brick -- is a metaphor... if it weren't obvious... for NLPers ability to expand people's awareness for... what it is that they don't yet accept as a wider set of options and skills and knowledge of what is possible in the world. So yes! Bohunkas! It is a delivery system for processes. And it is much much more! |
| Bohunkas | gotcha |
| Jonathan | What kinds of things can we use metaphor FOR? |
| K_O | IT still sounds like it'd hurt.. couldn't you just remove the glass or um.. cut it away or something?? |
| Jonathan | (sorry to repeat myself!) |
| Bohunkas | why would it hurt? |
| Jonathan | K_O -- sure. But it doesn't hurt to learn that you're capable of more. |
| Bohunkas | maybe you'd rather use the door.... |
| Jonathan | That your belief systems can expand. That your knowledge can grow and your skills will multiply. |
| K_O | Hey you imagine you are sitting with your face up against some glass and some weirdo throws a brick at the window! I think it'd hurt! |
| Jonathan | OK... K_O... would it help to know that guess what: The brick needs to be thrown from the inside out! You have to get inside their model... and open it wide up! |
| K_O | Oh Ok.. that's better! |
| Jonathan | If you throw the metaphorical brick from outside... sometimes they get defensive and put up a brick wall! |
| tranzpupy | and throw bricks back. |
| Jonathan | But if you enter their world completely... so that YOU can see the limitations of their model... you can help them expand it to allow for new & better things! |
| K_O | Yeah that's what I'd do! Protect myself from the attack! |
| Jonathan | So! What kinds of things can we use metaphor FOR? |
| peanut | changing beliefs |
| tranzpupy | conveying information... creating trance... |
| Jonathan | changing beliefs... ooooh good one -- how might you do that, peanut? |
| peanut | experiencing new perspectives, adjusting beliefs |
| Bohunkas | persuasion |
| K_O | coercion! |
| Jonathan | Persuasion... Coercion, yes, all that applies. |
| Kupal | Have you heard of my Entering Worlds algorithm ? Where I play from the inside rather than from the outside ? |
| peanut | presenting a story using their rep system and then change it. |
| Jonathan | What about... HEALING others? (assuming you're a licensed mental health practitioner in your state or country ;) |
| tranzpupy | oxygen molecules!!! |
| Jonathan | Sure! |
| peanut | by telling myself a metaphor? |
| tranzpupy | What! you can't heal without a license??? |
| Bohunkas | by experiencing one |
| Jonathan | Absolutely, peanut. There's a lot of belief that if you visualize something, that you can make it real/true. Some people believe they have healed themselves of cancer while in trance states. |
| K_O | tranz you can, but you could get sued for it! |
| alchemyst | mind is the builder.. and the power of the spoken word |
| peanut | sure in a trance state |
| Jonathan | I don't suggest that as an "alternative" to traditional medicine. I do suggest you explore anything that makes you feel better, and learn whatever you want to learn. Caveat Emptor. So there's all kinds of things that metaphor can do for us. Now there are quick metaphors, and long metaphors. and the purposes can be the same or different. Some are stories of situations people have gotten into, some are stories of tribes and countries or animals, etc. When you tell stories of situations with other people... you have the opportunity to modify the stories ON the fly -- to accommodate the shifting responses of your audience... by inserting quotes of things people said... or 'may have' said... you can change the tonality to suit the state you want to elicit in people! I looove quotes... And in the study of NLP we find out about Homomorphic and Isomorphic metaphors... Who knows the definition of the two above terms? |
| alchemyst | how about the imagining pac-man eating up the bad cancer cells.. "in black" this was used once and when the person couldn't see anymore black enemies the cancer was gone? |
| K_O | Hey old spiritual lesson type storys are great to quote! |
| Jonathan | sure! One could meditate on that! |
| Kupal | No such thing as Heteromorphic Metaphor ? :) |
| peanut | isomorphic is like a parallel; homomorphic isn't |
| Jonathan | I think I'd say Homomorphic is more like a parallel but tell me what you mean by that -- we might mean the same things! words (like parallel) mean different things to different people! |
| peanut | characters are similar to the person involved |
| Jonathan | Lets hear more definitions -- as people presently understand them... |
| peanut | equivalent=isomorphism |
| Jonathan | no one else? OK -- we're on the same wavelength -- |
| peanut | the fundamental characteristic of a therapeutic metaphor is that the characters and events which occur in the story are equivalent- |
| Stefan | Not that I know any Latin, but homomorphic sounds like "of the same form", whereas iso means different form of the same? |
| peanut | isomorphic- with those individuals and events which characterize the clients situation or problem. |
| Jonathan | homomorphic is more like -- equivalent results with different structure! |
| peanut | quote from David Gordon |
| Jonathan | Isomorphic is 1-to-1.... Right, peanut -- from Therapeutic Metaphors |
| peanut | si, although I haven't covered homomorphic yet |
| Jonathan | So... sometimes hypnotists or hypnotherapists will use the closest 1-to-1 mapping that they can find, i.e., isomorphic... |
| tranzpupy | examples, please, Jonathan? |
| peanut | yes |
| Jonathan | and they'll spend lots of time exploring the source of the problem, then lots of time on trance induction and get someone into a deep state... then deliver 1 or more isomorphic metaphors for post-hypnotic suggestions... and sometimes you can do it with a story that doesn't appear to be related at all. |
| tranzpupy | homomorphic? |
| peanut | yup |
| Jonathan | But while the content may differ greatly from the issue at hand... in a homomorphic metaphorical story... you have the opportunity to use quotes to embed commands... to induce the desired state which is useful for the problem -- without it being overtly related to the problem at all! |
| tranzpupy | kewl. |
| Jonathan | Now! Once you have the state you want... if it happens to be the state you'd want to help solve a problem... |
| Stefan | Like adding pepper to a hamburger? |
| Jonathan | ANCHOR it!!! Make sure you have a really easy way to get back to that state VERY easily and quickly and powerfully! Now there's a lot more about metaphors here that you can talk about in terms of how NLP Trainer make for very effective learning. Things like nested loops and all that -- but that's outside of the scope of these chats. At least.... to cover how they relate to metaphors. |
| tranzpupy | examples of iso- and homo- ? |
| Jonathan | But lets go through examples! |
| tranzpupy | thank you;) |
| Jonathan | ;) Go back to the beginning of this chat. What stories was I telling? |
| tranzpupy | you were at 70000 feet. |
| peanut | flying |
| tranzpupy | and working in the garden. grounded. |
| Jonathan | what were those metaphors about? |
| tranzpupy | the flying one was about seeing more... perceiving more, i think.. |
| Jonathan | or differently, perhaps... |
| tranzpupy | and the garden about using your subconscious to solve a problem... |
| Jonathan | right... and there's a BIG difference between being still on the ground... working in a very small area... |
| peanut | I thought the flight was an induction |
| tranzpupy | chunk size... |
| Jonathan | and flying at 70,000 feet up... moving 600 miles an hour and experiencing time differently.. |
| tranzpupy | it induced me! |
| Jonathan | ;) |
| peanut | I'm still groggy |
| Jonathan | What happens when you exemplify such major differences? You know the word, tranzpupy ;) |
| Pelone | You go into a trance. |
| peanut | peace |
| tranzpupy | ooops, now, which word... trance or... that other word... |
| Jonathan | starts with an "f" ;) |
| Pelone | fractionate |
| tranzpupy | frag men ta tion |
| Jonathan | bingo 2 points for Pelone. Fractionation, fragmentation, etc. Sure. |
| Pelone | I love this stuff. |
| tranzpupy | 1 pint? |
| Jonathan | So... two metaphors were useful by themselves but together became a highly powerful combination. Now, individual sentences there might have been useful too. I have NO idea. I can't tell through the chat channel. And even in person not all of it may match your internal models. |
| tranzpupy | hmmm... and when we fractionate, we come back together at a different level |
| K_O | Hey is it true that if a person hears something in three different ways they'll accept it? Like three examples? |
| Jonathan | Well, sometimes people come back together differently. I like to think of that as ecology or responsible use. |
| Klorm | yes yes yes. :) |
| tranzpupy | If you think of your brain as an eggshell and you fractionate it |
| Jonathan | Whomsoever uses metaphors should keep tabs on what states or loops are open, of course, and make sure that people are comfortable to move forward after hearing the metaphors, etc. |
| tranzpupy | and make it BIGGER, then there's all those spaces within the cracks before they solidify and that moment of expansion, of seeing through the cracks is the part |
| Jonathan | Granted, in normal conversation -- this happens all the time, often less than effectively but if any of you are considering the therapeutic use of metaphors... keep ecology in mind, get training in order to be competent in safely reversing fractionated states, etc. |
| tranzpupy | that is really mind-boggling.... |
| Jonathan | I agree, tranzpupy! Its great! |
| tranzpupy | spirit is in the CRACKS |
| Jonathan | Now a lot of times, trainers may leave certain loops or metaphors open... allowing the listener to close them on their own in real life. |
| tranzpupy | please, example... |
| peanut | yes, confusing your students |
| Jonathan | So who would like to share a metaphor with the group? |
| tranzpupy | give us an example of a loop left open |
| Jonathan | As you're thinking of some... I'll just explain my previous comment further -- Lets say I open 3-4 stories, and I close them up in reverse order... and I don't close the last one. |
| tranzpupy | which was the one you started first? |
| Jonathan | It's like an incomplete package... and since nature abhors a vacuum... it fills in the gaps itself. Ergo human "distortion" |
| tranzpupy | how does it know what to fill in? |
| Jonathan | And when you're in a more open searching state of mind... with a wider model -- a wider set of options... anything it fills in is likely to be an expanded set of options than what it had previously. Therefore since its YOU deciding somehow how to proceed... it must be right for you! |
| tranzpupy | oh. Okay. |
| Jonathan | Trust YOU'RE unCONSCIOUS now, Kay! |
| tranzpupy | I'm in trance, but I'm totally Conscious!! |
| Jonathan | OK -- who has a metaphor to share -- we can spend a little time OPTIMIZING it for the purpose you have in mind... Now that we've explored how they work for the last hour... |
| tranzpupy | ok. |
| Jonathan | (I have tons of em -- that gets boring -- lets be interactive) |
| tranzpupy | I have one. |
| Jonathan | ok |
| sabren | i have one :) |
| Jonathan | (keep in mind, brief metaphors, people!) |
| tranzpupy | You're waiting for *something*. Getting impatient. And you keep looking to see if it is on the way yet. |
| sabren | hurry UP, tranzpupy :) |
| tranzpupy | And the metaphor is "digging up the seed to see if it sprouted." ok, sabren :) |
| Jonathan | Ahhh |
| sabren | i was waiting for *something* and getting impatient :) |
| Jonathan | that's a nice one -- suggesting that the more impatient you get... if you act too soon on something... you'll be shooting yourself in the foot! |
| dbarron | I have a metaphor... about facing the edge of a cliff ready to jump! |
| Jonathan | Its funny. When I imagine myself or Bandler or another trainer telling the metaphor... |
| tranzpupy | the seed one? |
| Jonathan | I hear myself saying the words... and I wonder what I'd say before and after it to help LOCK in the message. Like after saying... "you know... its like... digging up the seed to see if it sprouted..." I imagine myself making a face and saying "And you find out that it HAD!" |
| sabren | i like the metaphor of the two little pigs that wanted to build a house like their brother's.. one pig kept buying bigger and better tools. the other built his house. :) |
| Jonathan | i.e., amplify the message! It's just like saying "and Double that feeling!" |
| tranzpupy | but now you've killed that pore little sprout... |
| Jonathan | Oh and definitely the pig with the tools WINS! |
| peanut | absolutely |
| Jonathan | Ever been to Home Depot? They have my picture on the platinum customer wall. |
| sabren | the pig with the tools has a nice toolbox :) the other pig has his house :) |
| Jonathan | And nothing to fix it with. ;) Plus he's saddled with a mortgage. |
| tranzpupy | the pig with the tools can come over to my place... |
| sabren | haha |
| peanut | tools will last longer |
| Jonathan | I'm kidding... just by turning an ISOmorphic metaphor into a HOMOmorphic metaphor. |
| tranzpupy | I'll pay the mortgage, he can use his tools... |
| Jonathan | It still has its impact, that's the NICE thing! |
| sabren | ...I saw the other pig chasing after the big bad wolf with a screwdriver :) |
| Jonathan | hehheh |
| peanut | lol |
| Jonathan | You're getting to the point where you can begin to see what kinds of metaphors lend themselves to pithy sound bytes. |
| tranzpupy | so is the seed story iso or homo? |
| peanut | homo ? |
| Jonathan | The seed story is ISO. |
| peanut | oops |
| tranzpupy | because it isn't about a people? |
| Jonathan | Because everything in the story is a 1-to-1 mapping with whatever it represents. There's no structural difference. |
| tranzpupy | oh. |
| Jonathan | The moment you add in potentially irrelevant material... ...lots of extraneous information which CAN be used successfully to match a wider variety of circumstances -- i.e., we're not exactly sure WHAT its a metaphor for anymore but it sure sounds like a nice learning model! |
| tranzpupy | like planting the seed in Ericksons garden. |
| Jonathan | The HOMOmorphic ones are the ones I find are or can be designed to induce major physiological responses! YES! |
| tranzpupy | example of a homomorphic one... please |
| Jonathan | The airplane ride. |
| tranzpupy | another, please... |
| Jonathan | I tell a story about the J. Paul Getty Museum -- designed by Richard Meier. |
| Jonathan | About how in order to take the commission he had to agree not to build an only-white building. |
| tranzpupy | oh, yeah. ok... my uncon-subconscious knows,,, it'll tell me later. |
| Jonathan | After YEARS of building only white buildings. There's a long lead in to the story which allows me to embellish with enough detail to capture a wide array of comparable experiences and states... based on the group's responses AT that moment. |
| tranzpupy | I remember |
| Jonathan | It can lead to a shift in people's perceptions at one decisive moment. But people experience all kinds of shifts when that happens, and its all by their choice, because its all ABOUT education and greater choice. I think people also ought to be able to tell when a teaching metaphor is beyond likely reality. People can appreciate and learn from exaggerations, without having to suspend disbelief. |
| tranzpupy | so if you tell a isomorphic metaphor, the listener may know just what you are metaphoring about. But if you tell a homomorphic one, the listener may not *directly* identify it... |
| Jonathan | yes, typically. |
| peanut | question about a metaphor you told us years ago |
| Jonathan | So... I think it opens up a whole new world of possibilities when we recognize that the stories that describe our more dramatic experiences in life become our own teaching metaphors... you may discover that we often change the way we remember and tell stories to other people. |
| peanut | the story about the sick guy driving to the store. was that an isomorphic??? |
| Jonathan | Sometimes we fit the story to the moment... either as a metaphor... or to share common experiences to the degree our stories match other stories that other people have told us! That was more an experiment in shifting perceptions and attitudes. Because it kept changing on you, peanut. So you had to change to incorporate the dramatic new information you kept getting! |
| peanut | uhh. oh. eye see |
| Jonathan | So I'd say it was HOMOmorphic... because if you get anything out of the story -- and it sounds like you did because you remember it! -- then... it means you can find times in your life when you may have overreacted with insufficient information yourself! |
| peanut | that's a possibility |
| Jonathan | The situations you pick(ed) don't have to match the timeframe or circumstances described.... only the mental shifts that occurred in the sick driver. Does that make sense? |
| peanut | yup! I'll have to reread the homo iso thing though, every time I think I have it, I don't |
| Jonathan | Good, peanut! You know we love uncertainty where knowledge is concerned... If you think you're certain, be certain you've prematurely closed your mind to other extensions to the information ;) Its our brains' natural "generalization" & "distortion" processes at work! |
| tranzpupy | and deletion |
| Jonathan | that too, tranzpupy, deletion implied by the "Premature Encapsulation." ;) |
| tranzpupy | huh? premature encapsulation....? distortion? |
| Jonathan | Deciding you "know it completely!" OK, lets wrap it up here! |
| timshel | come on, not yet. |
| tranzpupy | Jonathan needs his beauty sleep. |
| Jonathan | Who's still here & actively monitoring? (y) roll call... |
| tranzpupy, PhilAlex, timshel, Stefan | y |
| Jonathan | We've had fun discussing certain types of metaphors and what they can do... and how you can embellish them towards certain aims. I encourage everyone to begin to recognize that every experience... every moment... is a metaphor for that experience -- isomorphically! And homomorphically for something else entirely! |
| tranzpupy | oh, that's too deep. Way below see level |
| Jonathan | Its often easier to metaphorically illustrate something than to describe it directly! And influencing others through metaphors is OFTEN the easiest way to go -- since their CONSCIOUS minds aren't as defensive to learning. |
| timshel | people I've come in contact with like stories tooooooo! can we talk freely now? |
| Jonathan | Yes! The story-tellers of our lives are often the people we remember most vividly! The story-tellers are the people that enrich our lives with moving descriptions of times in our past... of community experiences... of common ground. Now that flight attendant was pretty hot, but then, I think she was trying to steal my attention away from my wife, who's pregnant. Ahhhh {sigh} jealousy makes a person less interesting. So I stopped smiling at the flight attendant, and went back into a dream state... because after all I was flying pretty high! Now, eventually I got back to Florida and I could look back at the whole thing... and say, Vicodin is Way TWO strong for flights. |
| timshel | what time tomorrow ho |
| Jonathan | And I guess it doesn't matter quite what altitude you get up to, now, as long as you experience some REAL natural highs in life. |
| timshel | that was supposed to be Jonathan |
| Jonathan | Because in a way, I'm glad you came to play in my Garden tonight... and I wonder what you'll be doing differently tomorrow... Now.... |
| tranzpupy | Didn't we? |
| RoyKirk | Whoa! Lots of people on tonight! Damn me, I forgot the seminar! Is it still going on or is this general chat? |
| Jonathan | I'll say on official goodnight and thanks to everyone for coming! |
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1998 - Chris FialaMarketing Consultant, Clearwater, FLAttended Course : Speaking Ingeniously
"I very much enjoyed your seminar. Having more comfort when I talk with people makes the rapport deeper. Even though my demo is only 90 seconds, I hold longer eye contact with more potential customers, building a sense of connection. Result? Sales of my juicer product increased 30%." -
- Andrew JoyPrincipal French Horn, Cologne Radio Orchestra, Cologne, GermanyBought Audio : Finding Your Irresistible Voice
Your CDs arrived safe and sound. I've listened to the first two and worked on the exercises. I'm a 55 year young, professional principal french horn player and have been working in a top German symphony orchestra for the past 30 years. I listened to the bonus telephone interview today. I am blown away. The results, applying your voice exercises to my playing (and to my students) are phenomenal. Resonance plays a huge role in performing on a brass instrument and very few poeple understand much about it. I've picked up useful and practical information, from singers and voice coaches, that I've been able to adapt to brass playing. Explaining resonance is now easy using your nose, mouth, throat etc, approach. The killer though, is using double resonance. I have free at present and don't have to perform in the orchestra (and the hall) until the beginning of Febuary. However, I am itching to hear how my changed sound is in our hall. It has to be amazing. Your material has added wonderfully valuable understandings to my comprehension of what constitutes excellent quality brass player and has beautifully simplified my means of effectively communicating it to my students. There has been a lot of belly laughter, stunned ears and broad smiles in my teaching studio this week. I'm teaching a course to amateur wind and brass players next year and am looking forward to applying your teachings to this particular situation for the benefit of the people attending. Thanks a million. This is one of the few times in my life where I've been gladly reeling and with a huge smile on my face.
http://www.andrewjoy.com2007 - Maureen StevensonCafe Manager, Nottingham, UKAttended Course : Belief Craft MP3 Set
"As a person who has never attended any NLP or KE Sessions before, I have found the whole experience useful to me and feel that I am going away with a wealth of knowledge I believe will guide me through many areas of my life. I am excited about attending more trainings in the future."
2005 - Howard WolfMiami, FLAttended Course : Persuasion Summit
PTPS was absolutely the best training in persuasion I've ever experienced. Chris' skills in NLP and persuasion are a compilation of the best of Richard Bandler, Kenrick Cleveland, & Michael Hall, all combined. Chris has evolved these techniques, enhanced them, and repackaged persuasion for the new millenium. Chris has tested his techniques thousands of times through the thousands of telemarketers he's managed over the years. This seminar will go down in the annuls of NLP history.
2001